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I am enjoying the new video you put up and you are talking about the part where you met Corinne in the field and you were zoning in and out because the level of proper fuckery you are experiencing outside the gym.

I switched to upper/lower for the last 5 weeks and its hardest training recovery wise I have ever done. I can feel some nausea and think “How am I supposed to do this again buth with one extra rep or kg on all sets in 3-4 days”. I am wondering if you are proper fucked only in terms of physically/cns drained or does it also affect you mentally as well? I assume its equally both at your level because the loads you are using are massive and I wonder if you could talk about if you have any negative feelings, thoughts, doubts which you need to overcome.

[Tor-Andre Kongelf]

Agreed with a lot of the comments already made on here – this is a pretty ridiculous cycle – stupid tbh. Massive no no from me . Would like to have a stern word with the coach that thought this was a good idea :L

Thank you Sara. Yes I agree. I do not remember his name but he got quite the following. I cant find out tomorrow.

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Hey Jordan, i was wondering why in the upper lower and the full body the triceps quads and shoulders all get two exercises while the rest only get one. My question is wouldnt that lead to weak-points in the physique?

This is Jordans log. Your question has no relevance to what he writes about in his log or his progress etc. He is not going to answer this so try the Education Forum where you can ask questions about your own training etc.

[Tor-Andre Kongelf]

Hey Kuba. Quick question for you about protein powder. Do you think there are any downsides to proteinpowder over protein from whole foods like meat? I do not have any digestive issues with whey protein at all. Would you try to limit the amount of protein powder you take in a day? I have only meal a day from whey and the rest from meat. Does it make any difference?

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I agree with hilly this would be a no no from me. That’s not anything I’ve ever done or would do. Personally I would advise her away from this

Thanks Kamara. This seemed completely outlandish to me as well. My friend does her best in trying to advice her away from this with the information I have given her. I hope she listens eventually.

I will bring your message across as well

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What doses where they suggesting?

Good point. My friend didn’t say what doses she was told to use, but I would assume its the pretty “standard” dose of 100 mg of primo, 10-20 mg of anavar and winstrol.

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This is a fast track way to start some serious virilisation issues and ruin a female for life IMO.

Ridiculous /utter stupidity / mad

Cant really think of any better way to respond lolol

I totally agree so it was a good response. This was my opinion as well I just wanted to “fact check” myself against someone here who has a more experience in this compared to me. So thanks

[Tor-Andre Kongelf]

Hey Kuba. Tremendous success you been having lately. So nice to see.

I would love to see your current diet plan if you do not mind posting it. Its interesting to see how you approach food intake post show

[Tor-Andre Kongelf]

Hei Sas! Thanks for keepibg us updated.

I see that you are aggressive (at least compared to me) with the food and you go by look and feel.

What do you do to avoid waking up one day and see that you gained too fast and if this ever happened what do you do? Do you reduce carbs down to deficit and mini cut, lower to a maintainance or you do not mind this too much and roll with it?

Hey buddy : ) you’re welcome!

I am aggressive compared to most bodybuilders and coaches these days. But for me it’s not aggressive it’s just how I prefer it. I don’t mind getting sloppy cos I know I can still grow. But obviously I don’t like to get too fat.
If I wake up and see / feel it’s getting out of hand and I’m gaining more fat rather then muscle I will hold food there and maybe get more active for a few days. Extra steps. I don’t like mini cuts and I don’t like to reduce food. Once I got a food level I like it to stay there. When it’s diet time, I reduce and body responds much better[/quote]

Thanks thats very helpful Sas! Have a good evening/night.

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Hei Sas! Thanks for keepibg us updated.

I see that you are aggressive (at least compared to me) with the food and you go by look and feel.

What do you do to avoid waking up one day and see that you gained too fast and if this ever happened what do you do? Do you reduce carbs down to deficit and mini cut, lower to a maintainance or you do not mind this too much and roll with it?

[Tor-Andre Kongelf]

Where is the diet planner please I can’t find it? Thanks

On the menu in the corner where you have forums athletes videos, education, it will say diet.

[Tor-Andre Kongelf]

Hey Sas. Nice following your stuff. In regards to oats I wonder how you eat your outmeal for taste. Water and sweetener?

[Tor-Andre Kongelf]

Could you move this meal to later on in the day so it isn’t around your training window?

Yes. I can. It will seem strange for ocd reason to eat “breakfast” later but I can certainly do it.

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Yes it will, I would not
Combine exogenous insulin with higher fat meal, you will store more fat from it regardless of energy balance.

I would avoid it

Thank you Kuba. I will just switch meals around and have that meal later in the day.

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But tracking progress , are you bigger / yes or no ? What else is there to track ?

Tracking the process ? Why how does that help? That’s just useless data , eg I slept 5 hours on the 27th of feb . Who cares , have at it when you train still

Do an offseason and get bigger than ever and then get peeled

Labs , run labs and then try to get them
Looking as good as you can

My issue with a lot of things now, is people are so lost in the theory and I just don’t see anyone going after it !

Where are the guys pushing over 300
Pounds at 5 7 , 5 ft 8 ? , where are they !!? Data tracking won’t help that , if anything it will distract from it because it’s so hard that
Unless you are so focused , it won’t happen

Where are the guys pressing 5 plates ?

I don’t understand what’s happened to the new wave of people on socials , everyone is basically a pussy and just wants to talk Theory

It must be frustrating for someone like you who know the recipe to get big, and see so many people want to avoid that recipe like its a piece of rotten fish. Seems like they think that they can outsmart hard work and a lot of eating with whatever is some percentage more optimal according to some guy on Tiktok.

I am happy we have this forum where we can get some solid info on what needs to be done and how to do it.