[Tobi]

Nobody feels great when legitimately lean, natural or not.

If you’re getting stage lean to compete, then you just need to suck it up and get as lean as needed for your category in order to be competitive.

If you want to sustain a level of leanness for life, then the ‘best’ bodyfat % is where you feel comfortable at and can function day to day.

If you’re cutting ready for a gaining phase, then again suck it up and once you’re there you can get back out straight away.

Let´s say I feel best at 85kg in good level of leannes, and I want to be here so should I be in maintenance calories here? Thanks

[Tobi]

Yes

You have job michaela?

[Tobi]

Hello Tobi,

Well I speak in my name and in the name of other Pro Athletes :

If body building makes you spend more than earning : then you have to get a normal job next to it (coach, nurse, driver, idk plumber whatever)

If body building is making you earn more than it costs to you : having a job next to it can be a choice / you can have the freedom for more creation for another source of income for example

I personnally worked all my life after my studies and when I became Pro I was still working in informatics, but then the sports visibility I had opened some doors to me and I could change from my previous work, into being a self boss and being posing teacher full time : passion work bodybuilding related.

Except a few rare pros, no one can survive with a prize money or influencer commission

Thanks for great response

[Tobi]

We know as much of others peoples lives as you do

Yeah But i mean in this TBJP athletes, i rememeber one old video where one athelete said he works in railway

[Tobi]

Yer sometimes I want to murder people, cut their heads off and wear them as hats.

[Tobi]

Thank you!

[Tobi]

Awesome q&a today Jordan! Thank you for making bodybuilding simple for us beginners. I’m glad I started listening to you and athletes on here when I started!

Same, when i started listening to only JP, i made the best progress in my life, not beeing distracted by bollocks on ig

[Tobi]

Good upper today , time to hop off the nautilus press to start as it’s starting to bite my left pec, so hop off while I’m not injured

Nautilus press x 4 x 6

Smith Ohead x 7 x 2 x 15

Narrow machine press x 8 x 5

Lateral x 13 x 8 x 7

Pec dec x 8 x 8

Single arm push down x 8 x 6

Straight arm pulldown x 7 x 11

Chest T bar x 6 x 11

Reverse pec dec x 9 x 7

Curl x 6 x 8

286 today

Jord do you still follow your upper lower rest pull lower rest or auto regulate?

[Tobi]

Hi mate – how did this end up? Is the issue resolved?

Hi rich, yes it’s much better now, thank you :)!

[Tobi]

Hello Michaela, how often you do cardio? Also how much steps you do? Thanks

[Tobi]

No it isn’t,

You will likely need to go lower –

Macro structure does not make any difference to blood work or way you feel as a natural

Trialled this with a ton of my natural athletes and did bloods too, common thing was 0 difference to how bloods looked but those with higher carb simply performed better

Higher fats when leaner / in a deficit made no difference – lower body fat levels is what drives the adaptions the most.

Reality is you’ll likely need to go low fat and low carb to get lean lean

And Kuba Do you prefer firstly removing from carbs and than fats?

[Tobi]

No it isn’t,

You will likely need to go lower –

Macro structure does not make any difference to blood work or way you feel as a natural

Trialled this with a ton of my natural athletes and did bloods too, common thing was 0 difference to how bloods looked but those with higher carb simply performed better

Higher fats when leaner / in a deficit made no difference – lower body fat levels is what drives the adaptions the most.

Reality is you’ll likely need to go low fat and low carb to get lean lean

Thanks kuba!

[Tobi]

I know you do ! But you know what to actually do, I know you do ! You need to scale back the days you train, actually rest , and then train things at appropriate volumes and frequencies

Trying to force in arm days , won’t equal bigger arms . Training push every 4 sleeps and driving up your dip , and taking your body weight up, will !

There is no magic to it

Thank you very much Jordan

[Tobi]

Or every 4 or 5 days if you simply pick a sensible split , instead of the ones you come up with .

Upper

Rest

Lower

Rest

That hits every 4 sleeps

Push

Pull

Rest

Legs

Push

Rest

Etc etc

That hits it every 4 and 5 sleeps

You have been on this site for years and years , I literally want to smash my head into the wall reading your recent batch of questions tbh mate lol

Yeah I know I overthinking this stuff a lot

[Tobi]

I would go with feel to be honest . I’d split the volume across two sessions at least in order to train my chest frequently.

You can post your session below and we can help

So my sessions:

Tuesday Push1:

Flat machine pres non converging x2

Incline db press x2

Shoulder machine press x 2

Cable fly x3

Friday session:

Flat machine press x2

Shoulder press x2

Dips x2

Pec deck x3

So This is my chest/push volume. I dont know if shoulder press can be count as a chest volume. Thanks for the help!