[Nathan]

Hey buddy personally I would have things set up a little differently but theres definitely more than one way to do things successfully.

My preference would be similar weekly dosage to start.

300mg Test
400mg primo/Mast
150mg NPP

I would then look at every 3-4 weeks progress the test dosage 50mg and the NPP dosage 50mg if body composition still good, no negative sides. And health markers are solid. You could progress the primo up to 6-700mg here

Working up to approx 1400mg Total load and run that for 6-8 weeks.

For context I’m not on 500mg of test at 150kg 335lbs this AM – but my Primo is a lot higher. I started at 600mg primo I feel the best I’ve ever felt in cycle

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I think you need to go and watch more plates more dates YouTube regarding EQ and it’s actual role.

IMO it should not be used for the modulation of oestrodial. There’s way too much detail to go into regarding how it actually works in crashing E2 when ran alongside testosterone and I don’t think it’s at all positive for a cycle design. There are far better ways to modulate E2. 200mg Masteron or Primo would be a better choice.

IMO a lower dose of Testosterone and a higher dose of DHT derivative would be a better option. And NPP can still be ran successfully

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Evening guys! Push and arms today. Massive steps forward with the pec today. Full contraction on pec Dec flys and load up to match My good side.

Pressing strength improving each rotation now. back off set bilateral 2 plates a side for 25 felt better than expected ! So
I’m a very shoot man tonight.

Rest day tomorrow. Deep tissue and a long day at the laptop and a lot of coffee!

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If you are taking the weekly average and you are weighing yourself at a similar time. Then I wouldn’t worry too much buddy. Try to have same routine every morning. Wake up go to the toilet, weigh yourself. If sometimes you are sleeping longer then it’s natural that you will be a a touch lighter. Your further away from your last meal. You will be slightly more dehydrated. This will affect the scales. So just try to be consistent and take an average.

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First session back after 3 days off. And it was a very good one. Everything felt great. Strength was up. Reps were up! And it was just good being back amongst it!

First time on the Cybex hack for over a year which felt great. 5 plates x 15 reps at the end of the session was awesome! This will set me up nicely for some progression. 6 was there 100% for 8-10 but I wanted to lay some foundations down for progression.

Session went as follows

Seated calves RP x 2, 1 x 30
Prime Lying ham curl 65 x 14, 50 x 18-4-2
Seated ham curl 65 x 14, 55 x 14-5-3
Gym shop Adductors 6 x 14, 5 x 15-5-3
Prime Leg extension 5T 1M x 20, 4T 1M x 18
Cybex hack 5 x 15
Nytram banded leg press 400 x 18

Dead ?

Defo feel fresher after a 3 day rest. Push and triceps tomorrow which will be good to test the chest

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Last rest day today….Had a good sleep, Got up did some posing and Pheebs check in pics then had breakfast and took the dog fo a walk. We are meeting friends for a coffee today and then going to see Pheebs family this afternoon. Then we will take the dog for another walk around the block and get settled for another big week ahead.

I have dropped from 339-340 to 332.1lbs this AM in 2/3 days. So there was some inflammation that needed dropping off, along with some intracellular fluid as Ive been on rest day food so around 800-900 calories down from mainly Carbs. No insulin around training and obviously no training response. Im pretty sure I will be back up a few lbs over the next week and ready to push on. One thing i have noticed is i have had zero back pumps for 2 days on my walks now.

My appetite is good Ive actually been hungry these last 2 days. Which is a good sign and Ive only done posing and steps no direct cardio for a few days. Ready for leg day tomorrow!

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Another rest day today. Day 2 of the rest period and although I feel fresher in myself my joints feel a little banged up. Shoulders and elbows. My pec felt a little rough today too. Im hoping another good sleep and tomorrow rest should see me good. Then its back in for legs Monday! Signs of being heavy and old!

On a plus the cardio suite is on the way to being finished!

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I agree with Hilly increase carbs on both days 50g per day would be 200kcals each day and see what happens with that small increase

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Today was the first day of a 3 day rest period which should set me up for the final push of this phase. I dropped 5lbs from yesterday to today. Which potentially could be from a drop in inflammation already. So I feel this was 100% needed! I also had a nap today which freshened me up loads so these next 2 days I will rest and recover hard.

We had the cardio equipment delivered today too so I’m excited for the electrics, TV and mirrors to be up!

Leg day will be the next day back in and I’m buzzing for it

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[Nathan]

Hi Benjamin,

Hillys method is a very good method if you have no direct weigh or
Counting calories.

Have you not got access to a scale? And can’t you consume foods that are easy to track.

A bag of micro rice
Packets of oats
Single pieces of fruit
Scoops of Protein
Packets of meat or tins of tuna
Protein bars

Then at least you know you’re getting the same Amount daily “roughly” and go from there?

The question on how many meals to eat is completely dependant on your lifestyle, time, energy demands. There’s no set rule here. 3,4,5,6 whatever works for you

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So after speaking with Cal today has been taken as a forced rest day. I woke up Feeling pretty fresh. Did my cardio and posing, then went for a deep
Tissue massage. Felt decent after but then when I got Home literally felt like I’d been hit by a bus. Went back to bed for an hour. Which isn’t like me. And felt
Like I had a hangover!

So hydrate and rest today. As it’s pull and hams and I don’t want to not be 100% for this session! So we go Again tomorrow!!

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100% agree with Max here and I personally like masteron a lot. This would be the beat swap

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Very busy day at the laptop today. I’m more or less caught up. But the workload never stops! Which I can’t help but love! Especially when the team are smashing it!

I’ve had to cut my walks down now to 4 x 10-15 mins as anything over 20 mins is giving me back pumps! So I eat and I move lol! The dogs been out 6 times
Today between me and Pheebs he wonders what’s going off!

339.2 – 339.8 consistently daily now! Now real movements weight as held.

Just keep rinsing and repeating!

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I would just pick 1 split with 2 rotations buddy. This will always been my favourite approach. It allows enough variation in exercise selection to keep training fresh. And enjoyable. But also repeats the training set up frequently enough to make progression with movements.

As Oscar states rinse Upper/lower A and B the move to PPL 1/2

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